Citavi: Would you mind looking in again on the Scrivener thread under Ideas?

Elin D. shared this question 3 years ago
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Those of us posting there would be very interested in the answer to the question I posed to Damian:

https://help.citavi.com/en/topic/citavi-6-and-scrivener


Many thanks!

Elin

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Dear Elin,

Thank you for your hint.

Within the last weeks, we have not noticed your comments of the declined idea topic.

Please excuse that we have not paid attention to your thoughts.

We understand that Scrivener is an important part of your workflow and that it has worked with Citavi 5.

Our decision to remove placeholders will not be reversed.

The current idea could be to offer an additional add-in for Scrivener.

However, we are still waiting for more reactions on the topic from other users.

Kind regards,

Jana

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Thanks for replying - Since I had not heard anything for two weeks, I just wanted to make sure all our replies were taken into consideration.

I think offering an additional add-in for Scrivener is an excellent idea! If it could work as smooth as it does with Word, it would be a killer combination.

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SCRIVER ADD-IN. . . please. :)

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I also support a Scrivener addin.

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I also vouch for a Scrivener add-in. For those who use it, discovering Scrivener has been a game changer. Same for Citavi. Linking them together would create an extremely powerful combination.

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Please, please, please. Pretty please. Yes, please.

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Scrivener add-in please

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I also support the idea of a Scrivener add-in. This would save my life, literally!

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I would also request Scrivener add-in.

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Me too!

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Me too!

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Me too

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I use Citavi and Scrivener, and I'm not sure I see a good way to integrate the two. I think it would come down to adding Scrivner-type features to Citavi, rather than coordinating the two apps in real time. I think you could end up making a real mess out of Citavi. It works really well now. I don't need the apple cart turned over. So there is some frustration, but I can use Scrivner now for conceptual drafting and also Citavi for keeping track of references. I can also copy sections back-and-forth to Word. It works well like that. I can easily imagine some massive re-write of Citavi that adds a lot of problems from my end. It's really not a simple idea at all. I want to do most of my drafting in Word. Scrivner is not a robust word processor at all. If you hook Citavi up to a lame word processor, and I end up moving my text to Word, what happens then? Is Citavi supposed to then transfer from Scrivner to Word. It's a mess.

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Hi Eugene

Scrivener by far surpassses Word for preparing a first draft of a long document, for example a book or thesis.

All I'm looking for is a way to put placeholders in Scrivener which will be recognised by the Citavi Word add-in when I compile my Scrivener draft to Word at the end of the writing process.

That would not affect users such as yourself who want work in Word throughout.

Peter

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that would be soooooo great

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Hi Peter,

You're asking Citavi to re-write Scrivner. They can't do it. Scrivner doesn't have the features that would be requried to do what you want Citavi to do to it. They don't own Scrivner, and it is what it is. Keep in mind that Word far surpasses Scrivner as a tool for preparing the final draft of a long document. Scriviner on the other hand is very much a bare bones word processor. Scriviner will help you get your outline organized and to put your thoughts in order. Most writers will get to a stage where the structure is largely fixed. What you can do with Citavi is to use Scriviner for your first draft. Then compile your draft into Word. Once you get into Word you will find that Citavi is very robust and can add references into Word there both as footnotes and as bibliography.

Gene

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Hi all,

has anything happened in this matter since that time? New ideas, new possibilities?

Slavec

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I am trying out RoamResearch. You can integrate Roam and Zotero with zoteroRoam. Then I am also trying out the new Discourse Graph Extension (DGE), always in Roam. There is an excellent workshop by Lukas Kawerau, see https://twitter.com/cortexfutura/status/1459174505209868288

Also see this talk by Joel Chan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbpq8HpaDnc

Basically, you get the literature in with zoteroRoam, then you organize it with DGE, and then you write your paper in Roam. Roam can "combine" some aspects of Scrivener (the modularity) and some aspects of Citavi (organizing quotes and comments in categories).

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Another alternative will be using outliner program that integrates with MSWord and Citavi. You can try "writing outliner" software to see if this arrangement works for you. I know this might not be proper for all scrivener users, but this can help those who just focus on having an outliner to work on small word documents then re-arrange and join (all or some of) them. There is newer version called docxmanager, but for some reason it does not allow citavi to show as a word add-in.

Hope this suggestion will be of any help. Still it will be better of course to have rtf scan in citavi to work with different text editing platforms.

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