Citavi and Docx manager compatibility issue

Al G. shared this question 9 months ago
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Hello,

I have recently installed docx manager (a software that enables dividing long word documents to shorter ones and generate websites as well). All other MSWord add-ins seem to work fine except for citavi. The Citavi add-in does not work even after rechecking the options in word add ins and templates. It works just fine in MS word when opened normally. (Please kindly find the attached images). I have asked the developer of the docx manager but he answered that:

"I don't know the Citavi add-in, but most addin should work when a Word document is loaded in DocxManager, because DocxManager only makes the Word window being embedded into it, nothing else it does to interfere with how Word works. For this case you might want to consult the Citavi developer and see if they can solve or it get some useful information about the issue".

I know the issue might not currently be a general one but I wish if you provide me with any guidance as both programs are quite useful for me .

Thanks for all your efforts and great software

Best regards,

Ali

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Hi, Ali

We did know of that tool before, thank you for pointing it out to us. While we didn't test very extensively, it appears that for some reason Docx Manager causes the part of the Citavi Add-In which contains VBA macros (CitaviWordAddIn.docm) to become inactive.

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You might want to try and check if you can activate it together with Docx Manager.

Best regards

Sebastian

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Thanks dear Sebastian for the kind reply and caring to check. I will contact again with docx-manager..

Best regards,

Ali

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Hello,

DocxManager developer here. Thanks Al for raising the issue and Sebastian for the info provided in your reply.


Since more and more DocxManager users who uses both Citavi and DocxManager (obviously most of them write academic documents) are having the same issue, I finally got a chance to take a look at the issue.


The first action I've taken, according to info provided by Sebastian, was disabling the code in DocxManager that set "WordApplication.AutomationSecurity" option as "msoAutomationSecurityForceDisable".

As a result, now CitaviWordAddIn.docm is loaded, as you can see from the attached screenshot, or you can try the latest release of DocxManager.

Unfortunately, the Civita Ribbon is still not shown...


In addition, DocxManager does also the following to Word, and I wonder if these info can help you to figure out what's going on:

- DocxManager reparents Word window. I'm not sure if this affects how Citavi works, another Word addin had an issue with DocxManager and but it's been solved in their latest release.

- Set WordApplication.DisplayAlerts as wdAlertsNone

- WordApplication.Options.WarnBeforeSavingPrintingSendingMarkup as False


These all DocxManager does with Word. Feel free to ask if you need any other info.

Thanks!

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Unfortunately the problem with the missing loading from the document template and the Citavi menu is not solved yet. Is there any chance that I can use DocxManager together with Citavi?

Thanks a lot

Marcus

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Is there already a solution for this problem? In my installation, the Word addin of Citavi is loaded, but you cannot access it. The menu is missing.

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@Marcus,

This is Edwin Yip the developer of DocxManager. I'm sorry but at the moment I'll need advises from the Citavi developer before I can do anything further in solving the issue...

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There is still no solution of this issue. Simply docxmanager was added to a list of add-ins that are not compatible with citavi!

Although writing outliner (predecessor of docxmanager) is listed too, it can actually work with citavi pretty well. This may be a partial work around as writing outliner provides some of the basic functions of docxmanager in splitting and combining large documents, adding tags, summaries, creating backups, using corkboard, etc . WO can also be activated using the same license of docxmanager due to the developer Edwin's generosity (I hope he does not change this!.).

After completely finishing the project, you can export it to docxmanager if you need to publish it as a website.

Still solving the issue of citavi and docxmanager will be a great addition for both programs. Writing outliner and docxmanager both enable authors to divide writing processes into a project of sub-documents and sub-sub documents. This is usually requires in phases of writing drafts or in quite lengthy documents to avoid MS-Word mal-performance.

Citavi plus docxmanager enables authors to add and revise citations and quotes in sub-documents and merging them freely afterwards or even publishing them as a website for offline or online purposes.

For now we may need to wait as both software developers have other priorities. The workaround may be citavi+writing outliner then exporting the final product to docxmanager for publishing as website(in case this is needed).

I will move this issue to the english section as I misplaced it in the first place. Many thanks for both citavi and docxmanager developers for their great programs.

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